ScoutingTheNarrowRoad

The Eucharist is the entire God-man. Body blood soul and divinity. You can not divide the God-man within the Eucharist. Every smallest speck that still appears as bread or wine is Him in His entirety. And if that sounds absurd to you, remember that God was even smaller than that when He was an embryo in Mary’s womb.

Lucifer and Satan are the same being Apparently according to the Church Fathers and exorcists it seems that God might have punished Lucifer’s attempt to usurp God, who is a Trinity, by trifucating his personality. This comes partly from Jesus implying that Beelzebub and Satan are the same. And we of course know that Lucifer is Satan. Satan is called the father of lies, so contrasts God the Father. Lucifer means lightbearer which is obviously in contrast to God the Son who is the light of the world. Beelzebub means the “lord of the flies”. Considering that the Holy Spirit appears as the form of a dove, you can see how this apes Him.

The woman of Revelation 12 as Eve: 1. Look at the prophecy in Genesis 3:15 and compare with the content of Revelation 12. 2. Jesus is a descendant from Eve. 3. All Christians are a descendant from Eve. 4. Eve is thrown out of the garden into the comparative wilderness. How Eve fails to be Rev 12 woman: 1. The devil gets her. 2. Eve is in the comparative wilderness outside the garden for a lot longer than 3 and a half years. And the woman is out there to escape the devil whereas Eve is out there with the devil. 3. All non-Christians are descended from Eve as well. The woman of Revelation 12 as Israel: 1. Crown of 12 stars and wearing sun and standing on moon. 2. Jesus is a descendant and born in Israel. 3. Israel goes into the wilderness. 4. When Israel is understood to morph into the Church, the other offspring are all the Christians. How Israel fails to be Rev 11 woman: 1. Israel is never in the wilderness for a period of 3.5 years. 40 years is the large symbolic period they are there. 2. Israel is very much wounded by the devil even while they are in the wilderness. 3. If Israel is not understood to morph into the Church, then the other offspring don’t make sense because Christians are both Jew and Gentile. 4. It makes no sense that the devil goes against the other offspring after not being able to touch the Church if the people of the Church comprise it. He would have already been waging war on the people. The woman of Revelation 12 as the Church: 1. Everything in Israel’s section but 2. 2. The Church is in the “wilderness” during persecution. How the Church fails to be Rev 11 woman: 1. Everything in Israel’s section but 2 and 3 2. The Church doesn’t give birth to Christ. Christ births the Church. The woman of Revelation 12 as Mary: 1. Crown of 12 stars and wearing sun and standing on moon. Since Mary is Jesus’s only blood parent, and since Jesus is the fulfillment of having the bloodlines of Israel, Mary must too have the bloodline of all of Israel in her to the same degree. Additionally, Jesus is the Davidic heir. All of the Davidic heirs (with very few exceptions) took their mothers as queen. 2. She gives birth to Jesus. She thus becomes part of the fulfillment of the Genesis prophecy. 3. Mary is called “woman” by Jesus continually. Both attributing her to the Genesis prophecy and the future work of Revelation. 4. After the birth she and the rest of the Holy Family fly into Egypt for a period that is very likely 3.5 years. 5. After the Resurrection and Ascension, she flys from the persecution that not only targets all Christians, but especially her because she is His mother. 6. The devil not being able to touch her is in line with her being sinless. A fact that can be gleaned elsewhere in scripture but would be too long to explicate here. 7. Mary is the mother of all Christians. As shadowed by when Jesus gives her to John and John to her. When we are grafted into Christ, we become adoptive sons and daughters of the Father. So similarly we become so of His mother.

That’s not our teaching. The Apostles left a deposit of faith, both written in Scripture, and via their oral word. Which is why Paul says to “hold fast to the traditions we taught you whether by word of mouth or by letter” The oral part of that deposit of faith continued onward in time until it is written down by the Apostle’s closest successors: the Church Fathers They are not infallible on their own, but their collective consensus points to that which was left by the Apostles And you may think this use of oral tradition might be something pulled out of thin air, but the Jews also used this. A whole prophecy said to be fulfilled in the New Testament, “He shall be called a Nazarene,” is found nowhere in the Old Testament. Similarly, 1 Corinthians tells us the rock moved with the Israelites, but the Old Testament never records it moving with them.

No I am not merely landing on Catholicism from one off words. I am landing on Catholicism because the arguments and theology are Catholic. Lol no the Didache and Clement are not a problem. But first, which Clement? The Pope or Celement of Alexandria? Pope Clement I: Pope Clement I’s writing very clearly shows the Bishop of Rome’s authority as his exclamations are given as authoritative. In addition other sources penned at the same time (such as the Shepard of Hermas) directly talk about his role. “Therefore shall you [Hermas] write two little books and send one to Clement [Bishop of Rome] and one to Grapte. Clement shall then send it to the cities abroad, because that is his duty” (The Shepherd 2:4:3 [A.D. 80]). He also speaks about Apostolic Succession. “Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4–5, 44:1–3 [A.D. 80]). Not much else can be gleaned since he only wrote one surviving letter. Clement of Alexandria: Eucharist “Eat my flesh, he says, and drink my blood (John 6:53-5). Such is the suitable food which the Lord ministers, and he offers his flesh and pours forth his blood, and nothing is wanting for the children’s growth. O, amazing mystery! We are enjoined to cast off the old and carnal corruption, as also the old nutriment, receiving in exchange another new regimen, that of Christ, receiving him if we can, to hide him within; and that, enshrining the Savior in our souls, we may correct the affections of our flesh.” Salvation through the Church "Just as God's will is creation and is called 'the world' so His intention is the salvation of men, and it is called 'the Church.'" (The Instructor 1:6) Purgatory “If in this life there are so many ways for purification and repentance, how much more should there be after death! The purification of souls, when separated from the body, will be easier. We can set no limits to the agency of the Redeemer; to redeem, to rescue, to discipline, is his work, and so will he continue to operate after this life.” Didache: The Didache has the general structure of the Liturgy within it be it for Western Rite or Eastern Rite. Far from a problem, it points to Catholicism (or Orthodoxy) to be true.

There is no emergency that necessitates a relatively small religious order to have their own bishops Many religious orders exist without their own bishops

Purgatory: 1 Cor 3:11-15 Mary and the other Saints offering our prayers to God: Rev 5:8 Rosary: Our Father (Matt 6:9-13) Hail Mary (Luke 1:28, Luke 1:42) Glory Be (giving glory to the Trinity) Sinless Mary: Luke 1:28, New Ark of the Covenant typology Perpetual Virginity: Luke 1:34, John 19:26-27 Sacraments: Baptism (I don’t think I need to cite verses for this one at least) Eucharist (the Last Supper accounts + John 6 + 1 Cor 11:23-29, 1 Cor 10:16) Confirmation (Pentecost, Acts 8:14-17) Anointing of the Sick (James 5:14-15, Mark 6:12-13) Confession (John 20:21-24) Marriage (Ephesians 5:31-33, Wedding at Cana, Genesis) Holy Orders (Numbers 27:18-20, Numbers 8:10-11, Acts 6:5-6, 1 Timothy 4:14, 2 Timothy 1:6) Pope: Isaiah 22:20-22(context for Matthew), Matthew 16:18-19, Luke 22:31-32, John 21:15-17 Priests absolving sins: John 20:21-24 Infant Baptism: every verse that says whole households were Baptized, Col. 2:11-12(Baptism is the new circumcision), Luke 18:15-17, Acts 2:38-39

The Duterocanon was a part of the canon since at least 382 AD at the Council of Rome There’s an argument it might have been earlier at the Council of Nicea though, because we know Judith was proclaimed to be part of the canon at Nicea In every council since that touched the topic they affirmed the Duterocanon as part of the Bible Bibles would from then on include the Duterocanon. The Council of Florence, which was even just a little before the “Reformation”, re-affirmed the canon. So then what did the Council of Trent do that made it so special? Trent made it binding on the faithful as an article of faith, as in, if you willingly believe in another canon you are no longer keeping the faith.

Rachel I don’t know why he’s doing this because we really did not need to get into the weeds in such a way that it can confuse Protestants, but for the sake of communicating his point clearly: Prior to modernity, the English word worship actually also solely meant “to honor” much like “venerate” You can kind of see it in the word itself because it evolved from a compound word of “worth-ship”. This definition is still seen in things like the British calling their judges “your worship” In Catholic literature, because it is so old, you will often see “worship” used as “to honor” This is even true from originally Latin texts because there was a similar problem in the Latin language, so distinctions were made: Latria, Dulia, and Hyperdulia There’s also a similar limitation in Hebrew but that’s not necessary to get into In Greek, the original language of the NT, there’s several words attributed as “worship(honor)” one of those which is solely for God being Lateria, which is where Latria in Latin comes from. In English the closest equivalent to Latria is “adoration”