Okay, let's talk about Mexicans. The not-so-legal variety. I'll save the good part for the very end.
(🇲🇽Una disculpa de antemano pa’ mis paisanos, pero ya saben que es la neta, así que no se me pongan bravos ni me vengan a reclamar con el nopal en la frente.)
First: why do they wave that flag if they don't want to live there?
Short answer: they fly the cactus Eagle not so much as a color-revolution or some dying commitment to leftism; consider these people more like economy zombies and less as intelligent-design political supermovement. The Mexican bandera is just a substitute for a race/identity marker in their minds, since Mexicans don't have one. Few non-indigenous Mexicans are fully puro-moreno (meaning absolutely zero Spanish ancestry). Since Mexico is a complicated place, the flag is simply a thing they rally around when upset. It's not an on-the-ground nationalism (which Indian Hindutvas push), it's a "Mexican in the mind". Far more zen.
If you spend time inside Mexico you will be blasted in a visual soup of aesthetics that remind you of this. Kinda why Mexicans make excellent interior decorators, but I digress.
These pobrecitos most definitely want the America goodies (want a stable paycheck and a house), and they do not want the Mexico from back home, beyond buying caldo and manteca at the store. And if there isn't a store where you can get it, you'll have one once your place has a couple thousand Mexicans, someone will have a cousin or an unc connection that will relocate to your area and open the store.
These people differ a lot from Indians who will not shut up about how great their home country is (World SuperPower Number One, saar) that they never want to live in. Mexicans freely admit their homes back in Mexico are a shithole. They don't proactively want to reproduce everything that made Mexico a shithole here, but...
and this is a BIG but... they certainly practice a collective stupidity that ALLOWS them to recreate a Mexican cartel coloñia, here. The way to avoid this is simple: stomp on their dumb asses now and then, extend an olive branch, then repeat for the next wave of estupidos.
It helps to understand a bit about life where Mexicans grow up, too. Mexico has been in a constant state of political chaos since independence from Spain (even before Texas took their land, then the USA later). At one point they even borrowed a member of the Hapsburg royal family (a red-headed Austrian) and installed him as emperor, unable to find any suitable political system that didn't produce constant guerrilla warfare, or full out civil war. They ended up photocopying most of the US system of federalism then massively weakening it by over-centralizing power in the entire country into Mexico City, producing super high levels of corruption thanks to a single power center, often comically poor decision-making, which leads to long periods of anemic growth with few booms, and an overall weak Federal government that routinely lets the entire population of Mexico down.
The central government's near-constant malaise and long stretches of poor managers has existed for so long it's actually patterned into the Mexican psyche, it's a part of culture. Their culture (and their form of Spanish) position the nuclear family at the apex of everything, before the rest of society, before strangers, even before the Catholic Church (Dias de los Muertos showcases this).
Ambition and entrepreneurship isn't so much as killed in Mexico (that's more a South American feature), as the barriers to entry are far higher. Since hating the government is part of Mexican identity, alternative centers exist and you've heard of these places: Monterrey and Guadalajara. Less rocky than the capital, but still not that great.
Mistrust of the government, a long history of those wanting to fix it being murdered (they make our gun crime rates in the US look like Mayberry), and comically obtuse political leaders means most Mexicans don't consider any of the structure of the country that is supposed to make society function to be intrinsic to being Mexican (unlike the US with its unique constitutional republic, reverence for the Founding Fathers, etc. and built-in structure to prevent Washington from collapsing into a Mexico City).
To Mexicans, being Mexican isn't where you are, it's where and whom you believe to be. Sounds fine at first, positively zen and open-minded, until you meet a wealthy Mexican and you realize how that produces the exact opposite result. Mexicans even comment on it, surprised how someone who's made it becomes incurious and won't even acknowledge they once lived in a habitacíon before the hacienda.
Seeing all the tricolor cactus Eagles certainly can be annoying because it looks like some color revolution coup. That's not what's going on in their pea brains at all. Some may even be fully aware that's how we see it, but they don't care because they are attached to this flag like an emotional blanket, and telling them to drop it is like taking a kid away from his Nintendo.
But: all those people would be packing their bags and getting back on the Greyhound bus to go to Canada if all the Mexican institutions and corruption and the murdering cartels (who the emigrantes have to pay loads of money in bribes) jumped across the border and appeared here. And they often do appear here.
Emigrantes do not like to hang around that much down in the Rio Grande Valley on the off-chance they piss some local off who has a cus back on the other side of the border they can call in a favor (see: Mexican Mafia)
So, while they're getting frustrated because they're not getting free shit and a temporary work permit, they're going to hang around and block traffic in your community waving the little tricolor cactus Eagle, yelling in Spanish demanding special treatment and exempt from the police ever interacting with them, because they've been promised by your local area NGOs that they can make that happen for them.
You want to know what to do with these people? You simply just treat them like shit. In English and in Spanish. They really do not enjoy being hassled and it really bothers them, and La Toxicas among them who spend more time spreading chisme than working will obsess about it, depressing everybody.
When they look for a new place to land when they can't pay the rent, they look for where they won't get hassled... when they ding your car at Wal-Mart that you don't automatically pull out the baseball bat and start filming. Mexicans who live here and are US Citizens are tired of these endless waves and all their shitty little demands.
Treating them like shit really does ruin their day, more than any other kind of immigrant. You want them to stop knocking on your door asking to mow your lawn make a sign for your front door that says this:
NO ANDO PARA PINCHES JOTOS DE RANCHO TOCANDO A MI PUERTA. LÁRGATE A GUANAJUATO A PEDIR DE PUERTA EN PUERTA.
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Nov 11, 2026 · 11:02 PM UTC
Had a few run ins. Rude blocking my way in the store so I cussed the Indian out and he made them move. 😂 They will not give you $1 for very nice clothing at a yard sale. Speak a few Spanish words and they are like hombre knows we were talking about him let’s scram.
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If we want them to go home and have a decent relationship with them, like we should, and not have them want to live here. One of two things and they are only done under conservative leadership.
1) we steamroll the cartels and any major gangs in Central America.
2) we send in our best infrastructure guys and home builders and let them go wild in the major metros.
That’s it. The rest will follow.
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It's a more fundamental problem and it needs a new Monroe Doctrine (Latin-American sphere of uniformity) to make it happen.
Indians for instance love to claim that the USA would fall to pieces without their immigration, or their government back home. Mexicans hardly make this claim. But economically, the USA/MX is heavily co-dependent, and it's by far the most important importer.
Look at all the stuff Mexico can't do. It has no paper and timber industry, and no cotton. Their land doesn't support it, most of that comes from the US. Food and electronics now travel in both directions (Mexicans consider apples a delicacy, since they don't grow them... their stores have "apple" soda, it's wild), petrol travels in both directions and in giant amounts. Canada could produce more steel if it wanted, Mexico has already passed them up and can produce more--and they even did what Trump asked and banned Chinese and Indian imports of it, and still imports more than Canada. Canada refused to comply with the no-foreign ask and threw a hissyfit, apparently they don't want more jobs in Alberta and BC.
It comes down to Mexicans wanting to park their social grievances and think more pragmatically and far beyond the town (the theoretical limit of daily Mexicans concern). They have certainly done that in the past. 1960's Mexico in the PEMEX boom years certainly was a different Mexico than now. They just can't seem to ever make this stick for more than 5 years before reverting back to default insular apathy.
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