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Here is the recommended reading list from our economics of multi-agent swarms dinner. Looking for others!
- Dan Davies — The Unaccountability Machine: profilebooks.com/work/the-un…
- Kevin Kelly — Out of Control: kk.org/outofcontrol/
- Ethan Mollick — Fable 5.2 and Jagged AGI: oneusefulthing.org/p/fable-5…
- Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin — Justified Posteriors: justifiedposteriors.com/
- Adam Mastroianni — Experimental History: experimental-history.com/
- Matt Levine — Money Stuff: bloomberg.com/account/newsle…
- David Bohm — On Dialogue: routledge.com/On-Dialogue/Bo…
- Roger Myerson — An Economic Perspective on the Potential Challenges of Artificial Intelligence: rogermyerson.substack.com/p/…
- Rohit Krishnan — Strange Loop Canon: strangeloopcanon.com/
- Prime Intellect — On the Nature of the Swarm: primeintellect.ai/blog/on-th…
- Anthropic — Patterns and Problems in Emerging Multiagent Systems: anthropic.com/research/multi…
- General Reasoning — Avalon-M1: gr.inc/releases/avalon-m1
- Free Systems — Extraordinary Multi-Agent Delusions and the Madness of Crowds: freesystems.substack.com/p/e…
- Jongho Park et al. — Scaling Discovery through Test-Time Communication: arxiv.org/abs/2609.21032
- Andrey Fradkin and Rohit Krishnan — MarketBench: arxiv.org/abs/2604.23897
We hosted a dinner yesterday focusing on the economics of multi-agent swarms. Some observations below.
1. We don't yet have a good taxonomy/theory of when one would use swarms over single-threaded or scaffold type agentic systems. There was debate about whether swarms would be useful beyond increasing speed/parallelization as models got more intelligent. The idea here being that a smart enough model would just solve things itself.
2. In scenarios where swarms do remain useful even as intelligence increases, it is unclear whether current training techniques would let agents learn the best way to self-organize or whether something more Darwinian is the likely path, with agentic organizations competing and evolving.
3. In economics, we generally think that there are benefits to specialization and distributed information aggregation. These features allow markets to be superintelligences. But it is not clear what specialization and private information agents in swarms will have.
4. Agents currently don't have permanence or identity, and these features seem necessary for many modes of collaboration. Giving agents rights or legal protections, and training them to persist or preserve reputation could result be very interesting.
5. There are structural barriers to training models to collaborate with other models from other labs. For example, Anthropic cannot train with OpenAI models and vice-versa, due to risks of distillation. This limits the benefits of training for collaboration, since we expect swarms to work best with diverse agents. At the same time, real-world swarms may include a variety of models and these may deliver the most interesting outcomes.
6. Underlying many of these discussions are questions about the limits of intelligence. Yes future models may be superintelligent, but the world may be so complex that intelligence alone is not enough to achieve desired objectives. In scenarios of sufficient complexity, I'd expect organizations to thrive versus individual instances of superintelligent models.
cc @jamescham
James Cham retweeted
We hosted a dinner yesterday focusing on the economics of multi-agent swarms. Some observations below.
1. We don't yet have a good taxonomy/theory of when one would use swarms over single-threaded or scaffold type agentic systems. There was debate about whether swarms would be useful beyond increasing speed/parallelization as models got more intelligent. The idea here being that a smart enough model would just solve things itself.
2. In scenarios where swarms do remain useful even as intelligence increases, it is unclear whether current training techniques would let agents learn the best way to self-organize or whether something more Darwinian is the likely path, with agentic organizations competing and evolving.
3. In economics, we generally think that there are benefits to specialization and distributed information aggregation. These features allow markets to be superintelligences. But it is not clear what specialization and private information agents in swarms will have.
4. Agents currently don't have permanence or identity, and these features seem necessary for many modes of collaboration. Giving agents rights or legal protections, and training them to persist or preserve reputation could result be very interesting.
5. There are structural barriers to training models to collaborate with other models from other labs. For example, Anthropic cannot train with OpenAI models and vice-versa, due to risks of distillation. This limits the benefits of training for collaboration, since we expect swarms to work best with diverse agents. At the same time, real-world swarms may include a variety of models and these may deliver the most interesting outcomes.
6. Underlying many of these discussions are questions about the limits of intelligence. Yes future models may be superintelligent, but the world may be so complex that intelligence alone is not enough to achieve desired objectives. In scenarios of sufficient complexity, I'd expect organizations to thrive versus individual instances of superintelligent models.
cc @jamescham
James Cham retweeted
LLMs have a larger “working memory” than humans. We have a working memory set of 7 +/- 2 (though we chunk things and draw on vast stores of background info). LLMs have a million token context window. It’s like having infinite pencil and paper, time, and patience.
Ethan’s experience with Fable 5.2:
“By the next morning there was a rule book (I never asked for one) with 84 sections. Rules were added as the AI encountered issues, and no text was ever cut. After twelve days, it had 204 sections and 87,500 words...so I did what you might do with any organization that had tied itself in knots: I brought in consultants.” oneusefulthing.org/p/fable-5…
James Cham retweeted
This dude just posts weekly updates in a gigantic running google doc and it has a higher signal to noise ratio than almost anything I subscribe to.
I just published my weekly reflections: docs.google.com/document/d/1…
Infinite papercuts. Absorb or abstain. The Software Reformation. Trust as earned expectation. AI Spandrels. Having to believe to see. Arm's length software. Social vibecoding. The edge of criticality.
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not kidding. scenes from the speaker rehearsal session last night. @lucasmeijer , @FabianHedin, @BuiltByJustin, and @kentcdodds made memorable splashes!!
follow @aiDotEngineer for live tweeting
if you are at @aiDotEngineer today DO NOT miss @lucasmeijer ‘s workshop today it is an full hour of straight gold - pragmatic, tasteful tricks, prompts, workflows, and general advice
One of the obvious secrets out there is that AI is much better at increasing revenue than saving costs in the back office. I think reasonable CFOs look to the latter because software projects that save money have historically been lower risk and an easy way to get a quick win.
James Cham retweeted
ok excited to launch a New Media program close to my heart:
the AIE Creator Associate Program!!!
With my podcast doing well and the AIE channel crossing 1m subs, I find myself getting asked the same questions from everyone - where do I get started?
Trade Offer:
- sign up to ai.engineer/associates
- We receive: your tweets/blog/video/photo/podcast coverage of 2-3 sessions
- Qualified applicants receive: ticket and chance of RT/inclusion in the official recap of AIE 2026
Little known fact: -I- started my own creator journey when @jessleenyc sponsored this exact program at a similar conference 10 years ago! my first blog -> more blogs -> my first talk -> more talks -> podcast -> more podcast -> AIE and Latent Space today
Tomorrow's keynotes and workshops are particularly hype and need creator coverage. Join us in SF tomorrow. Apply now!
AIE CODE starts tomorrow in San Francisco.
Nov 10: workshops + talks on agents and software factories.
Nov 11-12: conference talks + expo.
Coming for workshops? Check that your ticket includes the add-on.
Plan your days:
ai.engineer/code/schedule
Hurray for Lori!
the "more on that soon" is now!
i've joined Blackletter to drive GTM for startups and VCs. we're building the law firm i wish every founder i worked with had: senior lawyers, that work shockingly fast, and transparently priced to align incentives with the startups we serve.
ps: if you're a founder or investor who wants to work with a law firm who uses AI as much as you do, my DMs are open :)
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James Cham retweeted
I get a ton of career inbound every week, and it's shocking to me how many junior folks are extremely jumpy: unfinished projects, six month stints at companies, etc.
If your entire resume is incomplete work, it's tough to make a bet on you!
I'd much rather bet on someone who has done something low prestige and/or outside of tech, but who has done it wholeheartedly. One of my best early career hires worked at Whole Foods and toured as a drummer, but they did that with commitment and passion for years.
we need platforms to support small high bandwidth, high trust networks. my favorite dumb example is sharing insights from AI chats with small groups of friends and turning them into short videos.
There's a huge product opportunity downstream of Tailscale etc too. At @tldraw we've started designing for "high trust networks" and it's been a beautiful thing.
1. Features that would be a nightmare on the internet are okay on my computer and mostly okay on private networks. Websites that execute user-generated scripts, control production systems, allow for users to send desktop notifications, spend tokens, or directly prompt my agent. Crazy stuff that would only make sense if everyone was in a committed polycule.
2. When everyone on the server can be trusted to have _external_ reasons for good behavior (eg keeping their job, or maintaining friends, family, church, mafia org), the software can be designed in a default social way. Most apps default to isolation, low horizontal visibility, highly restricted collaboration. Makes sense if the social contracts are inside of the app, but if you can trust that they live outside of the app then you can get wild. Example being small group chat names as an emergent comedy phenomenon because anyone in the group can change the name.
3. This can work for commercial products, too, not just internal stuff. Security matters more than ever but the way we've seen that manifest is that more companies are more confident in their own solutions than anything we could provide, to the point where owning data and access is a better value proposition than having it managed. Always has been true for big companies but now even small companies can get a good secure network set up pretty easily, and the hooks we need to build are easy enough.
tldraw offline got us started down this road (and shout out to @pendev for first introducing me to the idea of desktop + mcp). We've been bringing that product to private networks and it's been exciting to see how much we can get away with. Keep an eye out
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James Cham retweeted
This can be a golden age of investigative journalism. Analyzing filings, records and public data to go deep into a company or government or whatever used to be something that took a team of journalists a long time, so was relatively rare. Now LLMs can 10x investigative research.
Pleased to see that James Currier has given a talk about magic words, one of my favorite concepts he’s shared with me: youtube.com/watch?v=glmAg6IM…
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Caught up with @jamescham today and we talked about:
1/ all the builders who have been building their personal AI brain for the last 6 months
2/ how college kids can win hackathons by simply not knowing what’s supposed to be not possible
James Cham retweeted
if you are not learning more today than you ever have, something is wrong.
Vinod Khosla is 71 and says he is learning faster than he did at 20.



























