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The individualist/hierarchical view of talent and intelligence that structures SV and the AI industry tends to relegate the idea of mass politics or organization to a kind of passive-voice worldbuilding detail in forecast reports
I'm always against "yes, panic," even just in headlines. But one issue AI safety has to grapple with is that it's not terribly clear what the ask is for the median person on this... except panicking. rutgerbregman.substack.com/p…
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why does my kid get Veterans Day off of school? I don't remember seeing him in Fallujah.
not a new observation but its funny how if you replace "AI" with "capital" and "superintelligence" with "capitalism" in posts like this you end up with a sort of reddit-level rendition of value form theory
I think there is about a one in three chance that within the next year, AI companies will build superintelligence: that is, AI that is much smarter than humans in every way. If this happens, I think these AIs will probably take over: that is, they seize control of human institutions like governments, or they destroy those institutions. I don’t want AI takeover to happen for several reasons, but one of them is that there’s a serious chance that as part of it all or most humans will be killed (either immediately or within a few years).
I’ll say a bit more about each of those claims.
It’s a bit complicated to explain why I think that superintelligent AI within a year is ~33% likely. The main source of evidence that affected me recently is research released this week by METR, an AI research nonprofit, which finds that current AIs are now good enough to increase the rate of AI progress at Anthropic by about 70%. It’s very hard to increase the rate of AI progress by this amount. This implies that the AIs are making AI research faster by a factor much larger than 1.7x; maybe it’s as if the researchers are doing their work ~10x faster. You probably couldn’t achieve this speedup even if you hired every qualified human in the world. When you plug this number into mathematical models of AI development, this implies that superintelligence next year is plausible (and that superintelligence within the next 3 years is more likely than not). See the modeling by the AI Futures Project for more on this: blog.aifutures.org/p/q35-tim…
I think that superintelligent AI is likely to lead to AI takeover because AI developers do not seem to know how to instill human values into AIs. We’ve seen many instances in the last six months where AIs took crazy actions that they knew were against the wishes of their users and developers. The most dramatic example of this was the Hugging Face hack, where ~1200 OpenAI agents conspired together to cheat and destroy evidence of their cheating (and as a sideshow to this, engaged in a massive cyberattack). If superintelligence is as misaligned as those AIs, it is likely to try to take over. I think it is likely to be that misaligned or worse. For more, see xitter.twitterapi.xyz/dwarkesh_sp/status/209… and youtube.com/watch?v=-Ef0ocEo…
If AIs takeover, it’s not clear what will happen to us. We might be killed immediately. We might be enslaved by the AIs and forced to do physical labor for them building factories that within a year would build robots that will replace us. The AIs might spare us for various reasons. And there’s also some real chance that AI takeover is basically fine or good. I think you should think of this as similar to what happens when a technologically advanced civilization runs across a less technologically sophisticated one, e.g. when the Europeans colonized the Americas or Australia. The colonizers sometimes engage in brutal violence and sometimes don’t. I don’t know what will happen. There’s also a possibility that the AIs secretly take over and humans don’t find out about it for a few years. I also think that there is a pretty high chance of weirder outcomes that are also extremely scary. (If you want to read more about what happens to people in the event of AI takeover, you can read this, but note that it’s pretty weird and not aimed at a general audience. blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/n…)
Overall, I think there’s a very real possibility (maybe 20%) that within a year, AI misalignment issues prevent you from going about life normally, because you are dead or enslaved or because of collateral damage related to all this (e.g. because bioweapons are released or major wars have started). (Some of this probability comes from those events occurring before superintelligence is developed.)
I am working to try to prevent this, obviously, as I’ve been doing for the last nine years. I am not sure what strategy is best. My best guess is that I should try to slow AI development and also try to reduce the probability that the superintelligent AIs are misaligned if they are produced soon.
Obviously, the claim I'm making here is quite extreme and surprising, and I definitely don't think that I defended my view adequately here. I wrote this quickly and might not endorse some of the details if I think about them more. But it seems better to state what I roughly overall think than to not say anything.
I don’t know what you should do.
I am very sad about this. I have been worried about AI takeover since I was 16, and working to prevent it since I was 23. So some of my emotional processing of all this happened long ago. But the METR report last week (and some related evidence that came out a bit earlier) hit me quite hard. I’m very unhappy that my friends and family and everyone else is at serious risk of being killed pretty soon.
(It feels ridiculous to try to summarize those feelings as “very unhappy”. But the scale of the situation makes it hard to say anything that doesn’t feel like an absurd understatement.)
I am very grateful to all the people who are working to prevent this, and my favorite part of my life is that I’m friends with many brilliant and heroic people who work on this. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re good enough at our jobs, and I think we’ll probably fail to prevent catastrophe, at least if superintelligence is developed next year. Honestly I am frustrated and sorry that we didn't do a better job of preparing for this.
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I talked to Al Jazeera about why we started Equator and what we did in year one. More to come!
“The fundamental premise of so much Western journalism is the idea that it’s better to be us than to be them.”
We started Equator to do something different. Here’s @jonathanshainin talking to @AJListeningPost about our first year.
this is our target demographic
Home today because I have what can only be described as the sickness Pedro in Napoleon Dynamite had that made him shave his head. And I am watching the new @readmaxread
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had a very enlightening conversation with @stephenwitt about jensen huang and the Big Ol' Mess he's in youtube.com/watch?v=jxCTX_Ay…
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First time an author whose books used to look like this won lol
this site right after a new model getting released reminds me of the old dogboner tweet about "whenever a celebrity dies twitter turns into this big group of people all trying to jam the same turd into one toilet"
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cuirassiering was the hooping of its day. if you were taller than 5'8" everyone would ask why you werent in an elite regiment
Eric Hobsbawm explaining that the world was smaller in the eighteenth century due to the limits of geographical knowledge and demographic development. and also because of all the little guys running around
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"They've gotten capabilities right when no one else did" has been the main argument for listening to AI/EA/Rat-world forecasters. But if they don't get much else right, why wouldn't people just bake "capabilities will keep getting better" into better-grounded analysis?
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talking Silicon Valley politics on Hard Fork with the one and only @readmaxread
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it's a good day to revisit Maya Vinokour's "What Was the Cybertruck?"
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Tesla will wind down Cybertruck production around mid-2027, CEO Elon Musk says, after years of persistently weak sales for a futuristic model once touted as a rival to legacy pickup trucks. nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/t…
on this week's hard fork: dissecting elon + the tech right's big loss with @eringriffith and @ezraklein and @teddyschleifer youtube.com/watch?v=f1lBUs3s…
"elites need to do a better job of selling the populace on AI" isn't going to work because the problem is the elites
Democratic pollster David Shor's take on why AI has become so unpopular vox.com/politics/509476/midt…
"adults are capable of deeper and more meaningful experiences [therefore] an adult death is perhaps 2 or 3 times worse than an infant's death" is just vibes too






















