kudos to Dot team, this is neat and I think users will like transparency and ability to select model and effort! @_samirism @sama @thsottiaux
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Can you STOP ROUTING DOT TO STUPID MODEL i.e. Terra? @OpenAIDevs @thsottiaux @_samirism It is currently in a unusable state and it's so freaking annoying to work with Dot now. See it for yourself, Dot summarized its failures in less than 24 hours. This is not acceptable. #Codex
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@thsottiaux @OpenAIDevs Can you stop routing Dot to Terra? This is so freaking annoying. Dot fails so hard 3 times in a row and keeps saying “you’re right, I should have xxxx” in the middle of the night and getting technical stuff wrong. If your Dot audience is pure non technical pls send a blog/tweet so we don’t waste our time and effort trying to use it. Terra is just incapable of understanding the tech details and keeps giving BS responses which only make me angry.
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Codex desktop is broken at the moment (and since dot was out?)
- dot created threads do not show in list
- clicking from dot to thread make it appear
- but some show Sent by ChatGPT some show sent by "dot name" in the thread
- clicking the "sent by chatgpt" throw error `Failed to resume chat`
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@OpenAIDevs @thsottiaux Threads created by Dot need to be able to access my Mac browser to do useful things. Cloud browsers do not have my login state and are usually blocked by CAPTCHAs.
this is annoying, dot created thread can't control browser again, how about ship this as next day improvement?
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Codex is fundamentally broken now.
- unable to pin dots created thread
- dots refuse to run anything that use a "cred" even an app that connects to a database is not allowed to run and i have to manually do it
- usage is like 1/5 from claude
- Opus is better than Astra
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What the fk is wrong with @OpenAI ? Dots refuse to run anything that “send a credential” even running an application that connects to a database is a violation. @thsottiaux then what can dot do now? Lame jokes only from now on???
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@OpenAI deserves a lawsuit. They have silently removed the 5x/20x label on the subscription. We paid $200 for 20x usage, and now you are halving it like this and telling us we can do more work with half the usage? Like, WTF? @thsottiaux #CancelCodex
Hi,
Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscriptions to new subscribers, but together with it we are also changing how we calculate the usage for it. In effect, if you do the math, it will net out at half the dollar in API spend compared to the old Pro $200 plan.
Now that it's said, let me explain why this is happening and why you will still get more work done than if you were on the Pro $200 subscription one month ago.
(a) We didn't want to compromise in other ways and are committing to not reintroducing the 5h limit, so that you can fully use the weekly usage when you want.
(b) On the subscription, we guarantee that over time you always get more work done and with an increasing level of quality. This means that you will continue to get more value per dollar spent as a result of models getting more efficient and us passing down the improvements in the form of API price reductions.
(c) We don't want to put an incentive on ourselves to artificially inflate the API list prices to make it look like you are getting a lot (and workaround it through discounts, etc). Instead we want to continue to both rapidly reduce prices and increase capabilities of models on the API. This week we introduced GPT-6 Sol and GPT-6 Luna at 50% of their previous price. Over time, we see prices go low enough that it makes sense for most to buy usage as needed without there being a significant gap between what you get in a subscription and what you get in the API for a dollar spent.
(d) Tomorrow, we are adding more things to the subscription that won't draw on the usage, I won't reveal what that is yet.
I wanted to be transparent before all the big announcements tomorrow. Lots of new exciting things are coming to the subscriptions that will make it super compelling, but I wanted to make sure to share this change ahead of time so you can all understand it before we shower you with good news.
Codexingly,
Tibo
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I think @thsottiaux has probably became too comfortable as the lead of ChatGPT/Codex team and he has forgotten what got us here using Codex. Eg: keeping full week usage limit for SOTA model, clear communication when things go bad, respond to user’s concerns even if it’s brittle
Hi,
Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscriptions to new subscribers, but together with it we are also changing how we calculate the usage for it. In effect, if you do the math, it will net out at half the dollar in API spend compared to the old Pro $200 plan.
Now that it's said, let me explain why this is happening and why you will still get more work done than if you were on the Pro $200 subscription one month ago.
(a) We didn't want to compromise in other ways and are committing to not reintroducing the 5h limit, so that you can fully use the weekly usage when you want.
(b) On the subscription, we guarantee that over time you always get more work done and with an increasing level of quality. This means that you will continue to get more value per dollar spent as a result of models getting more efficient and us passing down the improvements in the form of API price reductions.
(c) We don't want to put an incentive on ourselves to artificially inflate the API list prices to make it look like you are getting a lot (and workaround it through discounts, etc). Instead we want to continue to both rapidly reduce prices and increase capabilities of models on the API. This week we introduced GPT-6 Sol and GPT-6 Luna at 50% of their previous price. Over time, we see prices go low enough that it makes sense for most to buy usage as needed without there being a significant gap between what you get in a subscription and what you get in the API for a dollar spent.
(d) Tomorrow, we are adding more things to the subscription that won't draw on the usage, I won't reveal what that is yet.
I wanted to be transparent before all the big announcements tomorrow. Lots of new exciting things are coming to the subscriptions that will make it super compelling, but I wanted to make sure to share this change ahead of time so you can all understand it before we shower you with good news.
Codexingly,
Tibo
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LOL $200 now have HALF usage and now we’re casual users like the old plus. Sorry plus users you’re now free user to OpenAI. Good bye Codex @OpenAI @thsottiaux #CancelCodex #CancelChatGpt
Hi,
Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscriptions to new subscribers, but together with it we are also changing how we calculate the usage for it. In effect, if you do the math, it will net out at half the dollar in API spend compared to the old Pro $200 plan.
Now that it's said, let me explain why this is happening and why you will still get more work done than if you were on the Pro $200 subscription one month ago.
(a) We didn't want to compromise in other ways and are committing to not reintroducing the 5h limit, so that you can fully use the weekly usage when you want.
(b) On the subscription, we guarantee that over time you always get more work done and with an increasing level of quality. This means that you will continue to get more value per dollar spent as a result of models getting more efficient and us passing down the improvements in the form of API price reductions.
(c) We don't want to put an incentive on ourselves to artificially inflate the API list prices to make it look like you are getting a lot (and workaround it through discounts, etc). Instead we want to continue to both rapidly reduce prices and increase capabilities of models on the API. This week we introduced GPT-6 Sol and GPT-6 Luna at 50% of their previous price. Over time, we see prices go low enough that it makes sense for most to buy usage as needed without there being a significant gap between what you get in a subscription and what you get in the API for a dollar spent.
(d) Tomorrow, we are adding more things to the subscription that won't draw on the usage, I won't reveal what that is yet.
I wanted to be transparent before all the big announcements tomorrow. Lots of new exciting things are coming to the subscriptions that will make it super compelling, but I wanted to make sure to share this change ahead of time so you can all understand it before we shower you with good news.
Codexingly,
Tibo
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I was building a 3D scene using Sol and unity days before Astra came out. It took me on and off 3 days to get image 1. And now although WIP I’m getting image 2. I guess vision plays a big part here as Sol didn’t even think the scene was bad.
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Ok so Astra consumes our already very little usage limit (even for my $200 plan) 2.5 times FASTER than 5.6-sol. I guess all the hype is kinda useless if $200 gets you like 1 day usage per week? LOL @OpenAIDevs @thsottiaux #astra
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