I could absolutely blast this woman with hundreds of examples of boys hurting girls, taking their medals and opportunities, and ruining the athletic experiences for not just "five girls" but for thousands, but honestly, I'm tired, and this isn't about examples or "lack" therof.
What this is about is the fundamental question of whether or not girls are allowed to have female only sport. Regardless of whether or not there is only 1 boy participating or 1,000, policies that based sports on "gender identity" give EVERY BOY in the state the RIGHT to participate if he so wishes.
What this means is that girls no longer have a RIGHT to participate in female-only competition.
Legislating on the question of whether or not girls' sports should exist is not a "fake problem."
It is a fundamental policy question that concerns every single girl who participates in sport in this country.
Rachel Maddow, ignorant, useful idiot that she appears to be, does not seem to understand this or believe that sports matter for girls in any way, shape, or form.
Rachel Maddow on the trans-athlete panic:
“To invent a fake problem… is pitiful — a sign of profound political weakness — and something that I think has now been exposed as the fantasist, B.S. cop-out that it is.”
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On some level, I can’t even be upset with her because in part, her brain cannot even fathom our perspective.
Everyone seems to be missing the point here. She is simply stating that the issue of trans athletes playing in woman’s sports is a tiny issue that has been blown up for fear mongering and hatred and presented as a country changing issue. The validity is irrelevant.
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You seem to be missing the point.
Allowing boys into girls' sports allows ANY and EVERY boy the RIGHT to join a girls' team if he chooses.
That is not a tiny issue, it is a FUNDAMENTAL issue for women's sport because it is actually concerning whether or not women's sport is actually allowed to exist.
That is not "blown up fear mongering."
What is the fear mongering is the rhetoric I've been hearing for years now that boys are going to commit suicide in droves if they cannot join a girls' team while the same people making that argument try to pass this off as a nonexistent issue that "affects no one."
What, you mean ultimate frisbee, chess and darts, & athletes who came in 36th & 3,316? 😅
Did Kylie Bemis bump someone to 3,317th place in a marathon? 😂
So essentially, trans athletes shouldn't compete at all.
And I thought Riley Gaines was a pathetic sore loser!
There is no chess included.
Yes, ultimate frisbee and darts are both sports and played at high levels, darts professionally for money and women's ultimate has premier, semi-professional leagues (referred to as pros)
Both involve athleticism, ultimate a huge amount of it involving throwing, running, and jumping, while darts less so, but studies have shown it exists.
Kylie Bemis may have, in fact, bumped a woman from the Chicago Marathon completely, as spots are limited and highly competitive. Only runners who meet a qualifying time are allowed in, other runners are chosen based on a lottery system.
Even if he has not, it is unbelievably insulting for women to have to compare themselves against a man, the same as if he had entered as a "para athletic" runner despite being completely healthy.
I include all results on the website so as not to be accused of "cherry picking" favorable results and for the sake of completion in the data lest anyone wish to analyze it and how often these men win compared to not and how they finish in events such as marathons.
I'd suggest you widen your horizons just a bit and perhaps refrain from ridiculing athletes who participate in events you yourself are not familiar with.
One of my cousins is lesbian, and lives in the Bay area.
Her take is the same as Maddow's.
I challenged her on the pressure put on lesbians by TIMs; she said it had happened to her but she just told them to F off.
She is 6ft, married, and 50+. Of course she did...
She did not seem to appreciate that young lesbians would not usually have that confidence or size.
Utterly depressing.
If the policy affects nobody then enact legislation to protect single-sex sports and shut up about it?
Because Maddow isn’t arguing that sports are already single sex and that works. She’s arguing against that position.
But her position is indefensible so she instead argues against the reason Americans feel so righteous in their support for single-sex sports. It’s a strawman.
She’s dishonest and dubious. It doesn’t matter if zero, one, or 5000 boys are participating in girls sports- it’s wrong and unfair.
Oh she holds you in contempt. See it on her face. The argument doesn’t matter. She has her fixed beliefs - those things that give her social status, and you are “beneath” her on the social ladder. A pesky obstacle to her and her social group that have the “correct” views and vision. And given the truth is a threat to her social status she will continually find or invent facts to maintain her beliefs. It’s tedious.
I bet she rarely actually debates with someone she disagrees with. My prediction would be she would just demean shame and scold them - not seeing anyone outside her group as worthy of consideration. 😒
Exactly. They say it “only” a tiny number of confused males. If you give them raw data showing this isn’t true. They say the data isn’t verified, whilst refusing to collect or verify it themselves.
At the end of the day the question is, do you believe that women and girls should be discriminated against on the grounds of sex- yes or no?
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they keep turning to "sports" because they believe most people don't care about sports,
and it is alot easier to dismiss than a rapist in a hospital ward for women.
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they talk about "sports"
they forget
1. male rapists in female prisons.
2. male perverts running La Leche League breastfeeding guidance
3. male perverts running "female only" rape crisis centers.
4. male perverts joining "silent birth" support groups
5. male predators being admitted to female only hospital wards.
6. male hospital staff touching women who requested female only care
7. male policemen strip searching women.
8. male offenders demanding they be searched by women (5&6 could cancel out with some imaginative policemen...)
9. women feeling unsafe in change rooms.
10. women losing scholarships meant for women
11. Women losing political spots shortlisted for women
i could go to 20 before I say "unfair sports."
The sharper indictment is not simply that Maddow is wrong about sports. It is that she uses the moral capital of minority status while refusing comparable moral seriousness to women as a sex class.
She presents herself publicly as a lesbian, and that identity has plainly been part of her public biography and political authority. Yet when women say: this category is ours because we are female; men may not take our places in it, Maddow does not answer the claim. She pathologizes the objection. She calls the political effort around it “repulsive,” “a fantasy,” and a “fake problem,” and likens it to authoritarian scapegoating.
That is a profound moral inversion.
A lesbian woman, of all people, should understand that female boundaries are not hateful merely because they exclude men. Lesbianism itself depends upon the proposition that sex matters. A lesbian boundary means that male people are not interchangeable with female people in sexual and intimate life. Yet Maddow’s rhetoric toward women’s sport effectively says that when women insist on a sex boundary elsewhere, that insistence is contemptible.
That is not merely inconsistent. It corrodes the very civic principle that protects minorities: the right of a bounded class to name the terms of its own association without being morally vilified for doing so.
The Roman question is not whether Maddow belongs to the correct faction. It is whether she practices justice.
And here, justice requires attention to the party who bears the cost.
The female athlete bears the cost.
She loses the place.
She loses the ranking.
She loses the medal.
She loses the record.
She loses the category itself if the category no longer excludes males.
Maddow instead directs all of her moral concern toward the man who wants accesall of her contempt toward the woman who says no.
That is a failure of proportion, but also of character.
Cicero would recognize the vice immediately: partiality masquerading as justice. A person claims to defend the vulnerable, but only when the vulnerable belong to the favored faction. When the injured party is politically inconvenient, her injury is redescribed as fantasy.
Seneca would recognize another vice: contempt for the concrete victim in favor of ideological abstraction. Maddow speaks of “99.9999% of Americans” as though arithmetic can absolve an injustice. But the woman who loses a championship is not 0.0001% of a population. She is a person to whom something happened.
The republic is weakened whenever citizens are trained to ask not, Was this just?, but How many people did it happen to?
A small wrong does not become no wrong. A rare violation does not cease to violate. A single corrupt official is still corrupt. A single doped champion still cheats. A single man who takes a woman’s place in a category established precisely to exclude male advantage still changes the nature of that category.
And Maddow’s language is civically worse than mere error because it punishes the act of naming the wrong. “Repulsive.” “Fantasy.” “Fake problem.” These are not arguments. They are social weapons. They tell women that if they defend the boundary, they themselves become morally suspect.
That is how a civic culture becomes cowardly.
People learn not to say what they can see.
Women learn that defending themselves will cost them social standing.
Institutions learn that conceding to pressure is easier than defending principle.
And eventually the boundary disappears not because anyone proved it unjust, but because enough people were frightened of being called wicked for defending it.
There is an especially bitter irony in a lesbian public figure participating in that process. Lesbian rights required society to accept that women could define intimate life without male entitlement. Yet Maddow now treats a female boundary in sport as morally disreputable when male people seek entry.
It's classic DoubleThink at work.
Maddow knows it's a lie.
The "fake problem" in reality is that these precious trans athletes have to compete against girls or their lives are meaningless, their athletic dreams unfulfilled.
The real problem is some males perversely want to invade girls spaces and dominate/threaten/hurt them with impunity.
The trans agenda says "there are only a few special 'girls'. How can that affect anything?"
The real problem for Maddow is that to acknowledge these aren't normal girls is to admit trans girls are boys.
I'd love for The Body Language Guy @Knesix to take a look at this response. In my (non expert) opinion, she doesn't look convinced.
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We all deserve enough rest and recharge to be able to enjoy our activism. Take whatever you need 👍
And remember that they all arrived at these viewpoints for emotional reasons, not rational ones. They simply do not think logically about it and they never will until they peek, which almost always is for emotional reasons also.
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