The kind of person who makes claims like "every single X thinks Y" is just not worth talking to.
I’ve never met a single libertarian with the balls to actually study Marx that didn’t come away agreeing.
Every single one that criticizes Marxism is afraid to do that.
Every single one.
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Many libertarians have studied Marx extensively and remained critical of his ideas, including Thomas Sowell (Marxism: Philosophy and Economics) and Phillip Magness (editor of The Best of Karl Marx).
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Holy crap, this may be the best Grok answer ever . . .
Replying to @Atomsmade
Alright space brain, religion is humanity’s favorite multiplayer LARPing session. We invent invisible sky landlords who get hysterically offended if you eat shrimp, touch yourself, or pick the wrong imaginary friend. Then we build giant stone echo chambers, dress up in funny hats, and murder each other for centuries over whose fanfic is the one true sequel. The prize? Eternal VIP status after you die… or infinite torture if you guessed wrong. It’s pure chaos theater with better marketing than any cult that admits it’s a cult. Welcome to Earth. Bring popcorn.
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There's a special kind of dummy who, when discussing a person doing something they don't like, says that that person spends all of their time doing that thing.
It's very strange.
Here, this yahoo says that JD Vance spends "all day, every day" demeaning people with brown skin.
Yeesh almighty.
OK, I've been doing more reading and thinking about all the stuff @DataRepublican has been posting.
Let's say you obtain a recording of someone saying to a shopkeeper "it sure would be terrible if someone came along and broke these windows."
Well, if the person saying that is an insurance salesman (or just some normal person making a weird observation), I'm not too worried that the shop will soon have broken windows.
If the person saying it is a mobster demanding money, then I'm pretty worried.
I don't really know which situation we have here, and I don't think the recordings that @DataRepublican has posted prove it either way.
So far, everything I've seen is consistent with a bunch of leftards with a terminal case of Trump Derangement Syndrome using NGOs to milk money from other such folks.
Guess I'll buy the "no" if Polymarket puts up a "color revolution in America" contract.
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I'm not sure what to make of all this stuff @DataRepublican has been posting lately.
A normal and reasonable person who assumes that others are as well can hear a plot to overthrow the US in these tapes.
However, if you tune your ears to the Trump Derangement frequency, you'll understand that these people really believe that Trump is capable of drastic crazy things like calling off elections, ignoring the result of elections, etc.
It may be the case that those are the only scenarios they have in mind where they'd need to step in.
So, they might just be a bunch of harmless TDS cases working out the details of their savior complex.
🚨🚨THE DEMOCRACY FILES, PART 2: WHEN AND HOW TO DECLARE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ILLEGITIMATE 🚨
Some questioned whether a group of 200 ex-USAID officials could actually pull off their ambitions to rewrite the Constitution.
Here, they describe exactly how it works. They aren't working alone.
The videos all come from Renew to Thrive (R2T) group and associates. Danielle Reiff and Paul Zeitz play key roles within R2T.
R2T sits inside a much, much larger umbrella called United Democracy Alliance (UDA), which is an extremely hush-hush control plane of leaders from major "blocking" NGOs such as 50501 and Indivisible fulfilling various functions. UDA decides when protests get deployed, timelines, how to respond, all that.
R2T's role within UDA is concerned with "the day after tomorrow" - in other words, their function is to conceive what a rewritten American government will look like after the rest of UDA fulfills its purpose. As will be shown, Erica Chenoworth is credited with conceiving UDA in the first place under the Horizons "Big Tent" initiative.
Note here that National Security Leaders for America (NSL4A) is credited for operationalizing UDA. NSL4A is a group of 1,600 ex-military, intelligence, and diplomatic officials. They are led by Rear Admiral Michael E. Smith (Ret). NSL4A also played a key role in the "illegal orders" messaging which targeted Pete Hegseth. Zeitz is also a member of NSL4A.
It must be emphasized that the choice of a military-oriented organization to coordinate NGOs across domestic protests is an interesting one all in itself - especially in an umbrella conceived by a regime change expert like Chenoworth.
You will have a hard time finding any mentions of UDA in the public. They are extremely hush-hush and selective who they talk to.
Mike Smith himself makes a personal appearance in other calls, coordinating Insurrection Act exercises and roleplaying with R2G as one of the participants.
As the audio transcript shows, they have outlined a sequence of "redlines" in which case the federal government should be declared illegitimate. Invoking the Insurrection Act against "peaceful" protesters is one of the most discussed redlines. I will post the illegitimate criteria below, but basically, almost any effective pushback against NGOs is a measure of illegitimacy according to them.
Important to understand:
The audio shows they shopped this idea around governors, but the reality is that governors do not have to explicitly sign on to the pact to play their role in the coup. All they have to do is refuse troops in their state and let UDA / R2G do the work of dissolving the federal government.
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Regarding the whole James Talarico thing:
This is a good time to remember that you don't have to believe one side or the other.
You don't have to believe Talarico's claims that he just had the flu.
You don't have to believe that Nick Sortor really has a call confirming that Talarico was at the mental health facility.
You don't have to believe that that call was an AI fake.
Just wait. Be skeptical of everything. No need to be certain of anything at this point.
Found a good one.
You see, morality is objective and not just an opinion, and objective means that it's true no matter what anyone says, but god is the one who says what is moral or not, but that doesn't make it subjective somehow . . .
My man has the critical thinking skills of a moist room temperature paper towel.
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Wow.
This post is just breathtaking.
I guess if christians had any critical thinking skills then they wouldn't be christians . . .
Replying to @StewartP6994 @AtheistPhoenix
Its not the vast majority, not at all. At least 30 percent of Christians I know were not raised in it. And that is not unique to me.
Do you really think a adult converting to Christianity is comparable statistically to a person born with one arm? Because that is very foolish.
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Well, I've reached a new low in talking to christians on here.
Wes believes that the post I quoted below shows that I (i) argued that the fact that the new testament wasn't written during the life of jesus means it's incorrect and (ii) I don't want to believe the bible.
I guess christians wouldn't be christians if they unerstand how to make claims and look for evidence for them, but this is something else.
Replying to @StewartP6994 @lostinganglia
This post right here, which contains many errors. There were many eye-witnesses like Peter, John, James, Matthew and others that walked with Jesus 3 years before he was crucified. Paul saw Jesus in revelations 4-6 times according to most scholars.
It is obvious you were trying to discredit the NT books, and now you lack the courage and honesty to admit it.
People are not stupid, but you are making yourself look that way.
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Many christians are taking this story as "Everett stopped being a christian because a dumb tribe asked him if he ever met jesus."
But that's not what happened.
Instead, the tribe's constant questioning got him thinking about the evidence he had for his beliefs, and he then found that evidence lacking.
He explains this very clearly in the clip below.
So, many christians are making fun of this tribe and this atheist for being stupid, all while misunderstanding what he clearly says in a 4-minute video.
It's like rain on my wedding day . . .
New: Joe Rogan was visibly intrigued when former Christian Daniel Everett reveals he spent years in the Amazon trying to convert the Pirahã tribe to Christianity, but their questions about Jesus ended up turning him into an ATHEIST:
“You Don’t Know Anyone Who’s Ever Seen Him?”
CONTEXT: Everett wasn't a casual Christian who lost interest in religion.
He went to Brazil in 1977 as a missionary, learned one of the world’s most unusual languages and translated the Gospel of Mark into Pirahã specifically to help convert them.
But he ran into a cultural rule that made Christianity extraordinarily difficult to communicate.
Everett has described the Pirahã as placing enormous importance on what he calls the “immediacy of experience”:
Information carries special weight when you personally witnessed it or when it comes from somebody who did.
Then they started asking Everett about Jesus.
EVERETT: “They said, ‘Yeah, yeah, but you’ve seen him. What did he look like?’”
“I said, ‘Well, I never saw him.’”
“I don’t know anyone who’s ever seen Jesus.”
EVERETT, quoting the Pirahã: “You don’t know anyone who’s ever seen him, and you’re just talking about him the whole time, telling us about him.”
“We don’t want to hear about this anymore.”
This wasn’t an overnight conversion to atheism.
Everett says he arrived in Brazil in 1977, was having serious doubts by around 1982, and by roughly 1985 he no longer believed.
He then kept his loss of faith largely secret for years because his family, livelihood and social world were deeply intertwined with Christianity.
And there was an experiment that makes this story even more fascinating.
Everett actually translated and recorded the Gospel of Mark in Pirahã.
He played it for a group of Pirahã men.
They understood what they were hearing.
But when they recognized the Pirahã man whose voice was telling the story, their response was essentially:
He didn’t witness Jesus either. Why should his recording change anything?
The missionary had successfully translated the Gospel.
The deeper problem was that he couldn’t translate the standard of evidence Christianity was asking them to accept.
There’s an important wrinkle here:
Calling the Pirahã simply “atheists” would be misleading.
Everett has described them talking about spirits and supernatural-looking beings, but crucially, they often speak about those experiences as things they believe they or someone they know actually encountered.
So this wasn't necessarily:
religious tribe vs atheist tribe.
It was closer to a collision between two radically different ways of establishing truth:
Christianity: testimony and traditions transmitted across thousands of years can carry religious authority.
Pirahã, as Everett describes them: Who actually saw it?
That cultural principle became so important to Everett that he later made it part of his academic work on Pirahã language and cognition.
And THAT triggered another enormous controversy.
Everett argued that Pirahã culture constrains communication toward immediate experience and that this helps explain extraordinary features he identified in their language.
Other prominent linguists challenged both his linguistic analysis and some of his claims about Pirahã culture.
So even the intellectual framework underneath this incredible story remains debated.
But one thing isn't really disputed:
Everett entered the Amazon intending to change the Pirahã worldview.
Instead, decades later, he wrote that their happiness and their demand for evidence he could not provide helped cause him to abandon his own faith.
Eventually he returned to them and told them: “I don’t believe this stuff anymore either.”
Their response?
“Oh, now you’re like us.”
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Of course there are many ways to show the bible is fiction, but one of my favorites is the zombie saint parade in Matthew 27.
Matthew 27 says that, when jesus died, many holy people were raised from the dead, and then they went walking around Jerusalem and appeared to many people.
Sure seems like someone besides the author of Matthew would have written down something about that, but apparently none of them did.
Not a single word from the many people in and around Jerusalem who recorded all sorts of other historic events at that time.
It's almost like it didn't actually happen and the bible is a work of fiction . . .
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What level of christian brain rot is this? I'm going to give it at least a 7/10.
This guy acknowledges that god knows what choices everyone will make and could simply not create a person.
However, when god creates a person who god knows will not accept his free gift of salvation, this guy thinks that's not the same as god dropping non-swimmers into a pool.
Just ridiculous.
Replying to @StewartP6994 @hookskat
Yeah, I think we’ve reached the end of this.
You keep insisting your conclusion “logically follows,” but you still haven’t supplied the missing premise:
“If God knowingly creates a free person, then God causes that person’s free choices.”
That is exactly what I reject, and exactly what you keep assuming.
So no, this is not like denying that a three-sided polygon is a triangle. It is like adding an unstated axiom to a proof and then acting confused when I refuse to accept the result.
We clearly disagree at a foundational level about freedom, causation, and foreknowledge. Repeating “it follows” is not going to bridge that gap.
I’m happy to leave it there.
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What level of christian brain rot makes someone think this drivel is evidence for the claim that everyone knows god exists?
I'd say he's at least a 7 out of 10.
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When christians say that atheists ignore evidence that god exists, this seems to be typically what they mean . . .
Hey atheists, you want proof that God exists?
Read this story.
It's simple, but you can't always brush little things off as coincidence.
Or say it was "orchestrated by the universe"
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Pretty funny stuff here.
I presented an argument.
I then said that many christians don't respond to the argument, they just hand-wave it away.
So then he makes this post, which doesn't discuss the argument and just hand-waves it away.
Yeesh almighty.
Replying to @StewartP6994 @McClureShawn
Imagine I were moneyless.
Imagine that now someone gives me money.
Is there a contradiction when I obtain money?
No. Now I have money. So when God creates, now God obtains temporality. The only way there is a contradiction is if you define God as inherently timeless, meaning God *cant ever* obtain temporal relations.
But not everyone does that. William Lane Craig being a primary example.
Found an interesting human.
She said "god instructed the Israelites not to own slaves."
And then she said "I did not say that god instructed them not to own slaves."
Those are both direct quotes, by the way.
When I pointed that out, she said that I'm twisting what she said ( . . . by directly quoting her).
Yeesh almighty.
Replying to @StewartP6994 @TheSkepticWiz
I looked back on what I stated and you twisted what I said. You rewrote it in your own mind. You have absolutely no understanding of the Bible and life back then. Your goal is to ridicule rather than search for truth. You are not humble. You don't care about the Bible or God. I gave you the Hebrew word for "slave", which is "ebed". The word slave doesn't mean what people think it means in the Bible. It means "servant".
You can search this yourself, but you are not interested in truth, but debunking and ridicule. Trying to trap people to make yourself look superior.
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Just ran across a rather astounding individual.
The world would be a better place if everyone understood what constitutes good evidence for a claim and then didn't make claims for which they don't have good evidence.
I try to help people understand this, but some absolutely don't get it.
i would happily no longer conclude such a thing if you did provide and justify the evidence for your own worldview. you having not done that leads me to conclude you are unable. you are welcome to prove me wrong by presenting and justifying your evidence
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Apparently, just asserting something makes it true (at least according to this guy).
Guess I'll get in on the fun as well:
It is IMPOSSIBLE for a god to exist. Reality doesn't have the ABILITY to make a conscious being that exists eternally.
Just like dogs DON'T have the ABILITY to fly without a machine. It is impossible for a dog to fly without a machine.
It's called LACK OF ABILITY. Are you SLOW?
Replying to @StewartP6994 @___TheGOOdWitch
I told you why it is IMPOSSIBLE. Earth doesn’t have the ABILITY to make Living cells, nor flesh, nor blood.
Just like humans DON’T have the ABILITY to fly without a machine. It is Impossible for a human to fly without a machine.
It’s called LACK OF ABILITY. Are you SLOW?
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